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	<title>Comments on: Nikon D200 GPS - Version 2</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MWA</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17693</link>
		<dc:creator>MWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Adorama put the Nikon MC-35 on sale, I just removed the RS232 circuit and integrated it into a carved out Hammond enclosure. However, I don't care for the battery drain and ended up buying the Sony CS1KASP in addition. I find it suits me better since it allows coordinates for ANY camera to geotag. Nevertheless, here's my finished product that ran $120, has a Nikon pass-thru for the 10 pin cable and is fully weather sealed.

http://www.posdsm.com/uploads/images/53/DSC_2394%20(Medium).JPG

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Adorama put the Nikon MC-35 on sale, I just removed the RS232 circuit and integrated it into a carved out Hammond enclosure. However, I don&#8217;t care for the battery drain and ended up buying the Sony CS1KASP in addition. I find it suits me better since it allows coordinates for ANY camera to geotag. Nevertheless, here&#8217;s my finished product that ran $120, has a Nikon pass-thru for the 10 pin cable and is fully weather sealed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.posdsm.com/uploads/images/53/DSC_2394%20" rel="nofollow">http://www.posdsm.com/uploads/images/53/DSC_2394%20</a>(Medium).JPG</p>
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		<title>By: John Pateman</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17442</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, Thanks for explaining that - I have also done a bit of Googling and am now rather wiser about how this works and the high frequency advantages of this design! 

You have made a great job on the build and enclosure. I have never tried soldering SMDs and think I will stick to through hole components for the time being and hope to be able to squeeze it into a small Hammond enclosure (Prob the same one that Al Chin is using). I was planning to use this 'upside down' i.e.  the hotshoe screwed to the lid and keeping the screws out of sight (and out of the way of the GPS antenna).

I echo Ian's comments - thanks to Rick for the design.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, Thanks for explaining that - I have also done a bit of Googling and am now rather wiser about how this works and the high frequency advantages of this design! </p>
<p>You have made a great job on the build and enclosure. I have never tried soldering SMDs and think I will stick to through hole components for the time being and hope to be able to squeeze it into a small Hammond enclosure (Prob the same one that Al Chin is using). I was planning to use this &#8216;upside down&#8217; i.e.  the hotshoe screwed to the lid and keeping the screws out of sight (and out of the way of the GPS antenna).</p>
<p>I echo Ian&#8217;s comments - thanks to Rick for the design.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Al Chin</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17423</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Chin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

I was wondering the same in regards to battery drain.  I guess just keep it simple. : )
I will see how my box work.  Thanks.

Al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>I was wondering the same in regards to battery drain.  I guess just keep it simple. : )<br />
I will see how my box work.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Al.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Paterson</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17421</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al,

The box I used is a transit box for antistatic electronic devices, used in my workplace. Nothing special really other than just the right size, and they are scrap after first use.

As regards using a zener diode, sure it fixes the level at 3.2V ok. It will cause a heavier discharge on the camera battery. A fully charged battery kicks out over 8 volts, that means you have 4.8+V across the 470ohm resistor, thats 10 ma being wasted, using resistors only dumps less than 1ma. As far as I can see it just holds the Rx pin on the GPS to logic 1, the two resistors does that fine.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,</p>
<p>The box I used is a transit box for antistatic electronic devices, used in my workplace. Nothing special really other than just the right size, and they are scrap after first use.</p>
<p>As regards using a zener diode, sure it fixes the level at 3.2V ok. It will cause a heavier discharge on the camera battery. A fully charged battery kicks out over 8 volts, that means you have 4.8+V across the 470ohm resistor, thats 10 ma being wasted, using resistors only dumps less than 1ma. As far as I can see it just holds the Rx pin on the GPS to logic 1, the two resistors does that fine.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Al Chin</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17380</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Chin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

Great job on the project.  Like the small foot print.
I have a Hammond  box but they have two screws holding both sides together.  Your box does not have any screws; may I ask where did you get that box.  
In the EM-406A spec sheet they mention a 470 ohm resistor with a 3.2 V Zener for the voltage divider; seem like it would be more accurate than two resistors.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>Great job on the project.  Like the small foot print.<br />
I have a Hammond  box but they have two screws holding both sides together.  Your box does not have any screws; may I ask where did you get that box.<br />
In the EM-406A spec sheet they mention a 470 ohm resistor with a 3.2 V Zener for the voltage divider; seem like it would be more accurate than two resistors.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Paterson</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17330</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

This circuit is a common base configuration, which is an impedance translator as well as voltage gain, low impedance in and high impedance out.  Its a very stable config and commonly used in hi frequency applications to prevent unwanted oscillations. (important when dealing with the NMEA data). It certainly works well with the EM-406A.
You can see my finished receiver here  http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandozer/tags/gps/

Thanks again to Rick, for the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>This circuit is a common base configuration, which is an impedance translator as well as voltage gain, low impedance in and high impedance out.  Its a very stable config and commonly used in hi frequency applications to prevent unwanted oscillations. (important when dealing with the NMEA data). It certainly works well with the EM-406A.<br />
You can see my finished receiver here  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandozer/tags/gps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandozer/tags/gps/</a></p>
<p>Thanks again to Rick, for the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pateman</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17264</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great design and something I have been trying to produce for some time now. I built a MAX232 RS232 level converter for my external GPS which works well (but obviously means carrying the GPS and a cable) and I wanted a camera powered independent design. I have picked up a GPS Receiver Module GPS-320FW (from www.rfsolutions.co.uk) which (supposedly) offers LVTTL and RS232 outputs of NMEA 4800 sentences. The RS232 output is not sufficient to be picked up by my D200 directly so have been playing around with level converters but without much luck. The output of this GPS module is rather different to the EM406 used in this article and I wondered if anyone else had tried to use this and come up with a suitable solution. It is a bit of a pain that the D200 needs such high serial voltages.

I still don’t understand the circuit that is proposed here. I see how Rx is kept high by the voltage divider as specified in the 406 module datasheet. As several previous authors have made clear, this should actually be Pin 3 and both Pin 3 and 4 should be swapped. 

The diagram that I am working from seems to have the base of the transistor connected to Vcc and the (supposed) Tx pin connected to the emitter. I would have thought that this would have meant that the transistor was simply open circuit and therefore doesn’t really doing anything. It would seem that the Tx pin is thus connected to Vcc via the 10k and 4k7 resistors in parallel (i.e. a resistance of  about 3k2), shifting the resting voltage towards Vcc. I have seen something similar advocated when using the old Macintosh RS422 interface which similarly sometimes needed an extra voltage boost  by simply soldering a battery between the rails to boost the baseline voltage. I am by no means an electronics expert and am prepared to believe that people have used this design but I fail to see how it works!

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great design and something I have been trying to produce for some time now. I built a MAX232 RS232 level converter for my external GPS which works well (but obviously means carrying the GPS and a cable) and I wanted a camera powered independent design. I have picked up a GPS Receiver Module GPS-320FW (from <a href="http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk</a>) which (supposedly) offers LVTTL and RS232 outputs of NMEA 4800 sentences. The RS232 output is not sufficient to be picked up by my D200 directly so have been playing around with level converters but without much luck. The output of this GPS module is rather different to the EM406 used in this article and I wondered if anyone else had tried to use this and come up with a suitable solution. It is a bit of a pain that the D200 needs such high serial voltages.</p>
<p>I still don’t understand the circuit that is proposed here. I see how Rx is kept high by the voltage divider as specified in the 406 module datasheet. As several previous authors have made clear, this should actually be Pin 3 and both Pin 3 and 4 should be swapped. </p>
<p>The diagram that I am working from seems to have the base of the transistor connected to Vcc and the (supposed) Tx pin connected to the emitter. I would have thought that this would have meant that the transistor was simply open circuit and therefore doesn’t really doing anything. It would seem that the Tx pin is thus connected to Vcc via the 10k and 4k7 resistors in parallel (i.e. a resistance of  about 3k2), shifting the resting voltage towards Vcc. I have seen something similar advocated when using the old Macintosh RS422 interface which similarly sometimes needed an extra voltage boost  by simply soldering a battery between the rails to boost the baseline voltage. I am by no means an electronics expert and am prepared to believe that people have used this design but I fail to see how it works!</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Paterson</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-17032</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you too had success Markus. 

I have just finished my one now and got it in a box one inch and a half square by .5inch deep. Used surface mount components and a small power switch. Suppose I could post pics on Flickr if anyone needs it, just let me know here.

Many thanks to you Rick for showing how it was done, and giving us all hope that it could be done. 

Thanks again,  Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you too had success Markus. </p>
<p>I have just finished my one now and got it in a box one inch and a half square by .5inch deep. Used surface mount components and a small power switch. Suppose I could post pics on Flickr if anyone needs it, just let me know here.</p>
<p>Many thanks to you Rick for showing how it was done, and giving us all hope that it could be done. </p>
<p>Thanks again,  Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
this is the 'short' message i was about to leave in case i'll get it working. I finally realized that i forgot to connect something on the board. So thanks goes to Rick who has invented the circuit and to MWA who has puzzled out whats connected on the drawing and last but not least :-) to Ian who helped in the final phase of assembly. All he found out was right! It's so nice to see it working.
Markus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
this is the &#8217;short&#8217; message i was about to leave in case i&#8217;ll get it working. I finally realized that i forgot to connect something on the board. So thanks goes to Rick who has invented the circuit and to MWA who has puzzled out whats connected on the drawing and last but not least <img src='http://www.rickwargo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> to Ian who helped in the final phase of assembly. All he found out was right! It&#8217;s so nice to see it working.<br />
Markus.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/#comment-16914</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian,
thanks once more. I hope I'll get it working too. I will leave a short message if I do so.
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,<br />
thanks once more. I hope I&#8217;ll get it working too. I will leave a short message if I do so.<br />
Markus</p>
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